Comments on: Chemicals preferred? http://www.journeytosamal.com/2008/10/chemicals-preferred/ The Color of My Dream Mon, 30 Jan 2012 02:10:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Randy C http://www.journeytosamal.com/2008/10/chemicals-preferred/comment-page-1/#comment-226 Randy C Sun, 19 Oct 2008 03:09:00 +0000 http://journeytosamal.com/?p=67#comment-226 Hi Ellen - keep trying and you can let me know what works, so I don't have to go through the same trials :-)<br/><br/>I've never been much of a gardener, but we don't have much trouble here. The hardest part is actually doing the weeding. <br/><br/>I'm sure we'll give it a try to a small extent though. Hi Ellen – keep trying and you can let me know what works, so I don’t have to go through the same trials :-)

I’ve never been much of a gardener, but we don’t have much trouble here. The hardest part is actually doing the weeding.

I’m sure we’ll give it a try to a small extent though.

]]> By: Ellen http://www.journeytosamal.com/2008/10/chemicals-preferred/comment-page-1/#comment-225 Ellen Sat, 18 Oct 2008 03:16:00 +0000 http://journeytosamal.com/?p=67#comment-225 Hi again. I did use natural pest control - boo hoo hoo - they still got eaten away. I did find some leafy veggies that are resistant. In fact, I am just sticking to these only. I also tried some beefsteak tomatoes and got only 3!! I am now going to pull out the very old looking plant and replant again. The 3 were so huge, very good, no worms, but it cracked in the heat!! :)) Hi again. I did use natural pest control – boo hoo hoo – they still got eaten away. I did find some leafy veggies that are resistant. In fact, I am just sticking to these only. I also tried some beefsteak tomatoes and got only 3!! I am now going to pull out the very old looking plant and replant again. The 3 were so huge, very good, no worms, but it cracked in the heat!! :) )

]]> By: Randy C http://www.journeytosamal.com/2008/10/chemicals-preferred/comment-page-1/#comment-224 Randy C Sat, 18 Oct 2008 02:46:00 +0000 http://journeytosamal.com/?p=67#comment-224 Hi Ellen - you make some good points. The "rules" for organic certification seem to be a little lax or at the least not enforced completely. I believe that California has the strictest requirements here in the US though.<br/><br/>For me it is a "blind faith" buy in most cases. That is one reason I think this new coop can be an improvement. We already have a very nice natural food store and organic products are available in most of the grocery stores, but you just don't know what you are getting or where they are coming from. With the coop buying mostly local, there should be some degree of accountability, at least I hope. I've been a member of successful coops before, but it remains to be seen what happens here.<br/><br/>There are natural pest control methods, and it sounds like the Philippines is promoting those from the articles I've seen in the news outlets. I'm not up on those, but I would imagine it would be crop dependent to some extent. Hi Ellen – you make some good points. The “rules” for organic certification seem to be a little lax or at the least not enforced completely. I believe that California has the strictest requirements here in the US though.

For me it is a “blind faith” buy in most cases. That is one reason I think this new coop can be an improvement. We already have a very nice natural food store and organic products are available in most of the grocery stores, but you just don’t know what you are getting or where they are coming from. With the coop buying mostly local, there should be some degree of accountability, at least I hope. I’ve been a member of successful coops before, but it remains to be seen what happens here.

There are natural pest control methods, and it sounds like the Philippines is promoting those from the articles I’ve seen in the news outlets. I’m not up on those, but I would imagine it would be crop dependent to some extent.

]]> By: ELLEN http://www.journeytosamal.com/2008/10/chemicals-preferred/comment-page-1/#comment-223 ELLEN Fri, 17 Oct 2008 21:13:00 +0000 http://journeytosamal.com/?p=67#comment-223 Hi Randy, I really hate it when people start using the word "organic" as a marketing ploy to charge more. In NZ I used to go to open Saturday markets and I noticed during the last year there, everyone has the sign Organic in their stalls. So it became competitive again amongst them, but I doubt all of them are organic. <br/><br/>There should be more FDA regulations on who can brand their products as "organic". The other day I just saw a documentary that they tested some "organic" products in the stores and found only 1 that was truly organic. I believe this was in America. <br/><br/>Personally, I don't buy organic, not only is it more expensive, and also I don't trust the loosely used term "organic". Judging from my little garden patch here, most of my vegetables got infected. I pulled them out. I wonder how the farmers can grow them without chemicals? Some little farmers can, because they can't afford to buy the chemicals :). <br/><br/>When we were fish farming, we were under very very strict guidelines. Samples have to be lab-tested before they could be harvested. <br/><br/>I don't think there are any coop system here in Samal. If there is, then maybe some basic product like copra or rice? If there is such a thing here, for sure it is government related - and possibly lots of "mismanagement". I know in Vancouver, some coop system failed. Farmers end up getting upset at organizers and prices. Hi Randy, I really hate it when people start using the word “organic” as a marketing ploy to charge more. In NZ I used to go to open Saturday markets and I noticed during the last year there, everyone has the sign Organic in their stalls. So it became competitive again amongst them, but I doubt all of them are organic.

There should be more FDA regulations on who can brand their products as “organic”. The other day I just saw a documentary that they tested some “organic” products in the stores and found only 1 that was truly organic. I believe this was in America.

Personally, I don’t buy organic, not only is it more expensive, and also I don’t trust the loosely used term “organic”. Judging from my little garden patch here, most of my vegetables got infected. I pulled them out. I wonder how the farmers can grow them without chemicals? Some little farmers can, because they can’t afford to buy the chemicals :) .

When we were fish farming, we were under very very strict guidelines. Samples have to be lab-tested before they could be harvested.

I don’t think there are any coop system here in Samal. If there is, then maybe some basic product like copra or rice? If there is such a thing here, for sure it is government related – and possibly lots of “mismanagement”. I know in Vancouver, some coop system failed. Farmers end up getting upset at organizers and prices.

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